Why not just give tokens to the deserving Linea Belivers and send the Sybils to hell?
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hahahahahaha nice try
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smart sybil level hahaha
I hope this attempt was not serious? is this irony? 
Thanks Declan for your comments. Now I see how things really happen. I’ve been out of touch for so long and had a few irl issues that needed fixing, anyway I enjoy your feedback and interaction with community members.
I’d love to see your article summarizing some of the community’s most shared ideas that you mentioned in your last community call.
man you made my day 
I am not shifting the risk to anyone. The problem lies beyond the filtering and potential quality of the wallets that receive the tokens. You can build the most perfect filtering system possible and distribute tokens only to real people with 1 wallet. However, this will not change the fact that a significant effect comes from the greed of the team. Whether it is 1000 wallets consisting of 99% sybils or 1000 wallets consisting of 1% of subils, if the allocation on the first distribution is 1% of total supply - nothing will change, the effect of sybils will be negligible whether exist they or not, the rewards will be minimal for all participants in the ecosystem.
Filtering is necessary, but if market conditions are terrible, and the greed of the team knows no bounds, then what is the point of all this? We all know that a drop is not only a way of decentralization, but also an excellent marketing tool for mass traction and attracting a new user base.
I’m not saying sybils are good. This topic is completely about different thing. I’m saying that the crucial factor is proper communication and trust between the community and the team, which sticks to its plans, and since they are talking about transparency, let them keep us informed as they promised.
The idea behind the topic was to highlight the community’s desire to start the TGE as soon as possible or fill this 4-month gap with something, otherwise we are losing momentum and real interest in the network from old and new users. 4 months of silence is not what I personally and I believe most of the community want during bull market, when each day is like 1 year irl full of emotions and events. So the compromise is either speeding up the TGE process to attract more users and capital with such a marketing tool in a near-perfect market environment where capital moves easily and freely without fear, or communicating transparently with the community, as the Linea team promised, to somehow fill the huge 4-month gap with discussions and interactions
It’s quite easy to combat:
- Implement 1.5k-2k LXP threshold
- Add multiplyers for those who came pre-Dencun
- Add few bonus boosters for those who were active on-chain apart LXP campaigns to reduce the number of false positives among real users
Boom! You get the most fair distribution with LXP indicating your onchain contribution with no bias and prejudices
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You didn’t undesrtand Declan my friend.
The idea he’s trying to convey is that those who came before 4844 aren’t 100% real people, but it’s most likely there are less sybils among them. So giving these people a multiplyer would be better instead of excluding all of those who came after 4844 leaving them with no rewards.
All users are vital and crucial for the ecosystem, but if you started your journey in Linea only from week 6 completing tasks with cheap fees when everyone paid high fees to complete the same tasks, it raises some questions about your real intentions on the network.
It’s worth mentioning that aroind 500-600k people came after 4844. So that’s definitely must be reviewed as a potential criteria to filter out people
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Read my answer here
True! Next seasons will provide some starting advantages for such person 
I see, love the communication
Well, the fact that 500-600 thousand people came after the update is not surprising. After all, the layer 2 networks were created to reduce commissions, few people want to give a couple of bucks for a transaction. So once again, I do not understand your logic when you say that users who came to the project after the update are more likely to be sybils. These are simply users who decided not to spend tens or hundreds of bucks on useless swaps in the l2 network, which was not yet ready for this. if you don’t want the Linea to be used by sybils then increase the commissions back and let’s see how many “real” users remain in this l2.
I didn’t say that those who came after 4844 are necessarily sybils, I’m saying and I know for sure from my sources that there are sybils among such people with a much higher chance. It’s even logical to assume, because there was a lot of time to write software, and the commissions cost pennies.
My take is that despite the fact that there are more likely to be scripters among these people, they cannot be left without rewards, just give out much less than to those who came earlier and spent more.
There is a large cluster of 500-600k users who came almost at the same time, some of them without even the SLIGHTEST INTEREST IN INTERACTING WITH THE NETWORK, EVEN SPENDING 30 CENTS on 1 unfortunate transaction, at least for the sake of testing out of personal interest. It costs nothing for a real user to make a test transaction, pay 30 cents and return back to tasks only with a decrease in commissions. But the sybil farms will not do this, because they know exactly how everything is arranged and how much such a “test” transaction (disguised as a real user) for thousands of accounts will cost them. 1000 accounts - already 300$ of unnecessary expenses just for 1 transaction, from wich you could make another ~50 accounts instead of just 1 transaction on each existent account.
If you refuse to understand banal logic, then we have nothing to discuss
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completely agree here
Your sympathy towards sybils is heartwarming
Hello sir, it’s actually very simple. The project emphasized LXP and later LXP-L at the beginning. The former requires POH but the latter does not. The team only needs to set a minimum threshold based on token economics to distribute token rewards to users. . As for the threshold, the team must have already planned it. There are actually only two ways to deal with the so-called witch, which is to kill it directly with threshold control or to issue several times the gas to it out of humanitarianism. Of course, it is not ruled out that there will be witches above the threshold or before 4844. After all, this part is very few. As the team said, it will be treated with caution. Of course, I hope to cut off this part, but what will the team’s accuracy be? As for the multiplier suggested by the community, I agree. Of course, this is all based on the killing of the witch. I hope this airdrop is fair and great.
No one ever said that activity post March 28th will be considered as Sybil. Please do not spread false information.
Our goal is to prevent large centralized industrial farming operations from receiving an outsized portion of the LINEA airdrop as it is antithetical to our goals of decentralizatiin and takes away value from other indviduals. Generally speaking, if you think you’re a sybil, you’re a sybil. Someone using a few wallets shows up very different to automated bots with 1,000’s of wallets.
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